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	<title>Comments on: Super Fanicom Voice Module: Maria†Holic 1</title>
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		<title>By: Omonomono &#187; A Yuri Epiphany, Podcasts Ship</title>
		<link>http://superfani.com/2009/01/14/super-fanicom-voice-module-maria%e2%80%a0holic-1/comment-page-1/#comment-1647</link>
		<dc:creator>Omonomono &#187; A Yuri Epiphany, Podcasts Ship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It is Marimite plus Macross Frontier. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: OGT</title>
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		<dc:creator>OGT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what I remember is, it&#039;s considered &quot;harmless&quot;, or at least was in the post-WWII years. Whether that&#039;s true or not, the idea is there: a young girl can safely have a puppy love crush for another girl without any clear threat to her virginity, and as a step towards preparing her for the feeling of loving a man. It&#039;s the same concept that has Mikuru asking Kyon to marry her anyway if she&#039;s &quot;ruined for marriage&quot; because of Haruhi&#039;s antics, and probably what led to the ridiculous Nagi virginity issue a couple months ago. The key thing with a girl-girl puppy love scenario is that it&#039;s &quot;pure&quot;--no physical consummation. Actual physical sexual contact of any kind would be frowned upon. It&#039;s more like an idolization and idealization of love--恋 (koi) kind of implies a tender but chaste passion for each other. Hence why a lot of yuri series only imply the yuri--it might be more of a cultural thing. It all ties into the concept of &quot;otome&quot; and &quot;yamato nadeshiko&quot;, which I&#039;m probably not the best expert on, but just think of purity a lot and you&#039;ve got the idea.

I don&#039;t know how long the idea&#039;s been floating around in Japan before the 1900s (not being closely read on Japanese sociology and sociological history), but I think Class S started the process of trying to sexualize the concept in a feminist push to gain wider acceptance of lesbianism. And when I say &quot;Class S&quot; you might as well just imagine I said &quot;Marimite&quot; because, in terms of narrative content, they&#039;re similar--although much, much removed from each other in time and intent, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what I remember is, it&#8217;s considered &#8220;harmless&#8221;, or at least was in the post-WWII years. Whether that&#8217;s true or not, the idea is there: a young girl can safely have a puppy love crush for another girl without any clear threat to her virginity, and as a step towards preparing her for the feeling of loving a man. It&#8217;s the same concept that has Mikuru asking Kyon to marry her anyway if she&#8217;s &#8220;ruined for marriage&#8221; because of Haruhi&#8217;s antics, and probably what led to the ridiculous Nagi virginity issue a couple months ago. The key thing with a girl-girl puppy love scenario is that it&#8217;s &#8220;pure&#8221;&#8211;no physical consummation. Actual physical sexual contact of any kind would be frowned upon. It&#8217;s more like an idolization and idealization of love&#8211;恋 (koi) kind of implies a tender but chaste passion for each other. Hence why a lot of yuri series only imply the yuri&#8211;it might be more of a cultural thing. It all ties into the concept of &#8220;otome&#8221; and &#8220;yamato nadeshiko&#8221;, which I&#8217;m probably not the best expert on, but just think of purity a lot and you&#8217;ve got the idea.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how long the idea&#8217;s been floating around in Japan before the 1900s (not being closely read on Japanese sociology and sociological history), but I think Class S started the process of trying to sexualize the concept in a feminist push to gain wider acceptance of lesbianism. And when I say &#8220;Class S&#8221; you might as well just imagine I said &#8220;Marimite&#8221; because, in terms of narrative content, they&#8217;re similar&#8211;although much, much removed from each other in time and intent, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Pontifus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pontifus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 04:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was under the impression that architecture was the &quot;real&quot; job he quit when he decided to be a full-time artist.</description>
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		<title>By: TheBigN</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheBigN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 03:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh. In terms of Fred&#039;s attention to architecture, it&#039;s because he went to architecture school, though I&#039;m not sure if he has experience as one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh. In terms of Fred&#8217;s attention to architecture, it&#8217;s because he went to architecture school, though I&#8217;m not sure if he has experience as one.</p>
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		<title>By: TheKittymeister</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheKittymeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Black holes will never be the same again.  Thanks.  Astronomy is ruined for me.  ; p    

The comment about the admissibility in Japan of a girl’s first love to be another girl is intriguing.  Is it accepted, similar to a girl being a tomboy, that she will ‘grow out of it’ at some point, or is it simply a difference of cultural expectations?  In some Asian cultures, of course, girls who are close friends will hold hands in public settings as a gesture of friendship—something that, in a couple of the schools I have been to, would likely result in a trip to the guidance counselor (among other things, I’m sure).  

That’s actually all I’ve got at the moment, altho I am flattered by the possibility of making an appearance in a future podcast.</description>
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<p>The comment about the admissibility in Japan of a girl’s first love to be another girl is intriguing.  Is it accepted, similar to a girl being a tomboy, that she will ‘grow out of it’ at some point, or is it simply a difference of cultural expectations?  In some Asian cultures, of course, girls who are close friends will hold hands in public settings as a gesture of friendship—something that, in a couple of the schools I have been to, would likely result in a trip to the guidance counselor (among other things, I’m sure).  </p>
<p>That’s actually all I’ve got at the moment, altho I am flattered by the possibility of making an appearance in a future podcast.</p>
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		<title>By: OGT</title>
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		<dc:creator>OGT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think, when I watched the first episode on my own first, I was just cruising along, and then the dorm manager popped up and started talking and I think I doubled over with sheer hilarity. It has absolutely nothing to do with her &lt;i&gt;nekomimi&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;tsurupettan&lt;/i&gt; status. At all. 

Well, okay, a little.

Or, well, a lot.

But not most! This is important!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think, when I watched the first episode on my own first, I was just cruising along, and then the dorm manager popped up and started talking and I think I doubled over with sheer hilarity. It has absolutely nothing to do with her <i>nekomimi</i> and <i>tsurupettan</i> status. At all. </p>
<p>Well, okay, a little.</p>
<p>Or, well, a lot.</p>
<p>But not most! This is important!</p>
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		<title>By: Nazarielle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nazarielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh god me too, I was doubled over trying not to laugh. I&#039;m sure more than a few of the other students waiting for their class in the hall were wondering what was so funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh god me too, I was doubled over trying not to laugh. I&#8217;m sure more than a few of the other students waiting for their class in the hall were wondering what was so funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaiserpingvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaiserpingvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d call it &quot;to self-Ackbar&quot;, but that&#039;s because I am a meme junkie with bad taste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d call it &#8220;to self-Ackbar&#8221;, but that&#8217;s because I am a meme junkie with bad taste.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaiserpingvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaiserpingvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OGT, we must join forces as to convince SHAFT to make a dorm leader-spinoff. She is most superior and most addictive.


This was the funniest one out of the bunch, kind of like taking a pill of E and tour an insane asylum playing some Syd-era Pink Floyd. N-Not that I have, uh, done that or anything. Yeah.

I want to  join in on the next one gnyaa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OGT, we must join forces as to convince SHAFT to make a dorm leader-spinoff. She is most superior and most addictive.</p>
<p>This was the funniest one out of the bunch, kind of like taking a pill of E and tour an insane asylum playing some Syd-era Pink Floyd. N-Not that I have, uh, done that or anything. Yeah.</p>
<p>I want to  join in on the next one gnyaa.</p>
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		<title>By: ETERNAL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ETERNAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I burst out laughing when they were rambling at the end about the black hole theory. That said, I don&#039;t think I&#039;ll ever be able to see CCY the same way... xD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I burst out laughing when they were rambling at the end about the black hole theory. That said, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll ever be able to see CCY the same way&#8230; xD</p>
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