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	<title>Comments on: On Blogging Part 5: broadcast perimeter and idiom-centric insertion and expansion [in other words, OH SHI- FLUTES]</title>
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		<title>By: THAT Animeblog &#187; 私のテイトク, 君のテイトク, 私たちのテイトク！</title>
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		<dc:creator>THAT Animeblog &#187; 私のテイトク, 君のテイトク, 私たちのテイトク！</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 06:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 8, 2009: last post of the 5-part meta series, inarguably the most educational [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pontifus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pontifus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I rarely comment on posts like this because lelangir does the whole meta-blogging thing so much better than I do...I&#039;m just a critic, and not even a particularly sociopolitical one. But...

&lt;blockquote&gt;...blogs are still blogs, and the big ticket is the writers, not the brand.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think what we may have here is the beginnings of a separation of multi-author blogs into two camps. On the one hand, we&#039;ll have those who fully embrace things like Ghostlightning&#039;s templates, who may even have some kind of editorial direction; these blogs, concerned with &quot;brand&quot; over individual writers, will basically be magazines, and will probably stand to accrue larger followings than the second kind of blog. Then you&#039;ll have blogs that are more or less open forums for writers, which is how I see Super Fanicom. In lieu of editorial control, these blogs hand-pick those writers who seem to best suit their general goals, provide for them an environment that lets them write in whatever way suits them best, and place them in close proximity to people with whom they can engage in joint projects, if they so desire. On the one hand, you have a magazine, and on the other, you have something more akin to a seminar (maybe not the best word, but a better word for the model eludes me). The question of which approach is best may depend upon the blog&#039;s general subject matter and goals.

Let me emphasize that I don&#039;t think one kind of blog is better than another. They both have their advantages. Blogs like OH! and THAT are ideal for reviews and the like, and have high content output and consistency, while blogs like this one are more conducive to exploratory writing and intellectualism (or so I like to tell myself :P). The former kind of blog is concerned more with readership, while the latter is concerned more with writers -- as it&#039;s all about discourse, the volume and quality of comments means far more than hit counts (though I&#039;m not about to deny the correlation between the two).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rarely comment on posts like this because lelangir does the whole meta-blogging thing so much better than I do&#8230;I&#8217;m just a critic, and not even a particularly sociopolitical one. But&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;blogs are still blogs, and the big ticket is the writers, not the brand.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think what we may have here is the beginnings of a separation of multi-author blogs into two camps. On the one hand, we&#8217;ll have those who fully embrace things like Ghostlightning&#8217;s templates, who may even have some kind of editorial direction; these blogs, concerned with &#8220;brand&#8221; over individual writers, will basically be magazines, and will probably stand to accrue larger followings than the second kind of blog. Then you&#8217;ll have blogs that are more or less open forums for writers, which is how I see Super Fanicom. In lieu of editorial control, these blogs hand-pick those writers who seem to best suit their general goals, provide for them an environment that lets them write in whatever way suits them best, and place them in close proximity to people with whom they can engage in joint projects, if they so desire. On the one hand, you have a magazine, and on the other, you have something more akin to a seminar (maybe not the best word, but a better word for the model eludes me). The question of which approach is best may depend upon the blog&#8217;s general subject matter and goals.</p>
<p>Let me emphasize that I don&#8217;t think one kind of blog is better than another. They both have their advantages. Blogs like OH! and THAT are ideal for reviews and the like, and have high content output and consistency, while blogs like this one are more conducive to exploratory writing and intellectualism (or so I like to tell myself :P). The former kind of blog is concerned more with readership, while the latter is concerned more with writers &#8212; as it&#8217;s all about discourse, the volume and quality of comments means far more than hit counts (though I&#8217;m not about to deny the correlation between the two).</p>
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		<title>By: lelangir</title>
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		<dc:creator>lelangir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whoa. anitations as a team. that is a hot idea.</description>
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		<title>By: THAT Animeblog - The Team Concept, and You are a Pirate</title>
		<link>http://superfani.com/2009/01/08/on-blogging-part-6-broadcast-perimeter-and-idiom-centric-insertion-and-expansion-in-other-words-oh-shi-flutes/comment-page-1/#comment-1231</link>
		<dc:creator>THAT Animeblog - The Team Concept, and You are a Pirate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] lelangir poked holes into the notion of a team blog as being a team I started reading about pirates for 18th [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ryan A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hot ellipses are hot. Um, so yea, blogs wouldn&#039;t exist without bloggers; root and stem. You should check out the writers for &lt;em&gt;Interview Mag&lt;/em&gt;, I think you may notice something interesting. What&#039;s more interesting is the static editor position. I&#039;ve been banging the necessary editor ticket for a while, and even suggested that to OH! Dunno if Riex too the advice, but beyond this blogger vs blog thing... it&#039;s just author vs delivery mechanism.

The trial then becomes, how great/stable is the delivery system? On the level of a periodical, they can swap writers in and out if they wanted, and I&#039;m sure they don&#039;t use all the source material in the first place. Blogs aren&#039;t that big, there isn&#039;t a diverse &lt;em&gt;meta&lt;/em&gt; presence above the writers. Team/Group/Multi-author blogs, whatever, so they have a captain, and maybe an editor, but before blogs can truly become greater than authors, there must be a strong presence and framework for it... unless OH! is doing that I don&#039;t see where its different, and until I see a &quot;blog&quot; with 50+ authors, and direction from editors, and all that jazz.. blogs are still blogs, and the big ticket is the writers, not the brand.

Btw, there is a way to do this without the writers, and I&#039;ve touched on it before. Aggregators do it brainless, while if you had a team of editors/readers/designers/content specialists, they could rely on the abundance of posts in this current &#039;sphere, and bring out something truly professional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hot ellipses are hot. Um, so yea, blogs wouldn&#8217;t exist without bloggers; root and stem. You should check out the writers for <em>Interview Mag</em>, I think you may notice something interesting. What&#8217;s more interesting is the static editor position. I&#8217;ve been banging the necessary editor ticket for a while, and even suggested that to OH! Dunno if Riex too the advice, but beyond this blogger vs blog thing&#8230; it&#8217;s just author vs delivery mechanism.</p>
<p>The trial then becomes, how great/stable is the delivery system? On the level of a periodical, they can swap writers in and out if they wanted, and I&#8217;m sure they don&#8217;t use all the source material in the first place. Blogs aren&#8217;t that big, there isn&#8217;t a diverse <em>meta</em> presence above the writers. Team/Group/Multi-author blogs, whatever, so they have a captain, and maybe an editor, but before blogs can truly become greater than authors, there must be a strong presence and framework for it&#8230; unless OH! is doing that I don&#8217;t see where its different, and until I see a &#8220;blog&#8221; with 50+ authors, and direction from editors, and all that jazz.. blogs are still blogs, and the big ticket is the writers, not the brand.</p>
<p>Btw, there is a way to do this without the writers, and I&#8217;ve touched on it before. Aggregators do it brainless, while if you had a team of editors/readers/designers/content specialists, they could rely on the abundance of posts in this current &#8217;sphere, and bring out something truly professional.</p>
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		<title>By: THAT Animeblog - Zoku Natsume Yuujin-chou 01: Return of the Bishie and his Cat</title>
		<link>http://superfani.com/2009/01/08/on-blogging-part-6-broadcast-perimeter-and-idiom-centric-insertion-and-expansion-in-other-words-oh-shi-flutes/comment-page-1/#comment-1228</link>
		<dc:creator>THAT Animeblog - Zoku Natsume Yuujin-chou 01: Return of the Bishie and his Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Omisyth: black lelangir: blue ←[109] [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ubiquitial</title>
		<link>http://superfani.com/2009/01/08/on-blogging-part-6-broadcast-perimeter-and-idiom-centric-insertion-and-expansion-in-other-words-oh-shi-flutes/comment-page-1/#comment-1221</link>
		<dc:creator>Ubiquitial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, despite how well these charts may be drawn, the major problem in the sphere is that the anime section is very loose. Almost divided into factions, if you will. Here, in your anime portion, you described one area. But many other blogs, very unique, exist outside. How can you find all of them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, despite how well these charts may be drawn, the major problem in the sphere is that the anime section is very loose. Almost divided into factions, if you will. Here, in your anime portion, you described one area. But many other blogs, very unique, exist outside. How can you find all of them?</p>
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		<title>By: lelangir</title>
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		<dc:creator>lelangir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh yeah, well I do use author, &lt;em&gt;post title&lt;/em&gt; as a format...because the blog doesn&#039;t write the post.

&lt;a href=http://lelangir.dasaku.net/?p=1121 rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I messed up once, only because there were too many authors to list&lt;/a&gt;

but that&#039;s probably indicative of something...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh yeah, well I do use author, <em>post title</em> as a format&#8230;because the blog doesn&#8217;t write the post.</p>
<p><a href=http://lelangir.dasaku.net/?p=1121 rel="nofollow">I messed up once, only because there were too many authors to list</a></p>
<p>but that&#8217;s probably indicative of something&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jpmeyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>jpmeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I mentioned in that inane &quot;in/on&quot; thread, branding is soooooooo key.  538 and Nate Silver are linked, but it&#039;s perfectly reasonable to think that 538 could exist without Silver as long as the new writer(s) were able to maintain the same level of statistical analysis.  I&#039;ve seen this with the Freakonomics blog.  Freakonomics is inextricably linked to Professors Levitt and Dubner, but it easily accommodates people like Sudhir Venkatesh who can write about the same kind of material.

But something like my blog or WRL couldn&#039;t exist any other way.  It exists purely for the specific author.  It is, in a sense our centralized feed and the only way that I really think an author can be dominant over a blog.  And on a technical, practical matter, by concentrating my stuff, it helps to create a larger audience through things like SEO and convenience.  By managing my brand, there aren&#039;t really many more places where I really could go to get a larger audience, either because the traffic elsewhere wouldn&#039;t be as high or because I wouldn&#039;t be able to post there anyway because I&#039;d be off-brand.  I noticed this with things like when Random Curiosity randomly had editorials and people really didn&#039;t care that much, since they visited that site to get early summaries and screencaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I mentioned in that inane &#8220;in/on&#8221; thread, branding is soooooooo key.  538 and Nate Silver are linked, but it&#8217;s perfectly reasonable to think that 538 could exist without Silver as long as the new writer(s) were able to maintain the same level of statistical analysis.  I&#8217;ve seen this with the Freakonomics blog.  Freakonomics is inextricably linked to Professors Levitt and Dubner, but it easily accommodates people like Sudhir Venkatesh who can write about the same kind of material.</p>
<p>But something like my blog or WRL couldn&#8217;t exist any other way.  It exists purely for the specific author.  It is, in a sense our centralized feed and the only way that I really think an author can be dominant over a blog.  And on a technical, practical matter, by concentrating my stuff, it helps to create a larger audience through things like SEO and convenience.  By managing my brand, there aren&#8217;t really many more places where I really could go to get a larger audience, either because the traffic elsewhere wouldn&#8217;t be as high or because I wouldn&#8217;t be able to post there anyway because I&#8217;d be off-brand.  I noticed this with things like when Random Curiosity randomly had editorials and people really didn&#8217;t care that much, since they visited that site to get early summaries and screencaps.</p>
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		<title>By: IKnight</title>
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		<dc:creator>IKnight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 12:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d always imagined that blog titles, not individual post titles, would be italicised, with post titles being placed in quotation marks. Like the relationship between an anime as a whole and its episode titles, or a book and its chapters, or a journal and its articles, or a poetry collection and its individual poems. I wasn&#039;t thinking about it on a theoretical level, just wondering about the rationale and whether it was a jab at the art-masquerading-as-science that is citation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d always imagined that blog titles, not individual post titles, would be italicised, with post titles being placed in quotation marks. Like the relationship between an anime as a whole and its episode titles, or a book and its chapters, or a journal and its articles, or a poetry collection and its individual poems. I wasn&#8217;t thinking about it on a theoretical level, just wondering about the rationale and whether it was a jab at the art-masquerading-as-science that is citation.</p>
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