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		<title>By: SDShamshel</title>
		<link>http://superfani.com/2009/01/05/why-we-love-teh-almost-yuri/#comment-421</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Large amounts of men have been introduced throughout Marimite&#039;s seasons, from Eriko&#039;s brothers to the season 3 debut of the Hanadera student council, and they never really detract from the innocent/ambiguous yuri that Marimite is known for.

There&#039;s one character who breaks the pleasant, feminine feel of the series but he does so almost intentionally. A member of the Hanadera student council, he introduces himself as a man whose hobby is weightlifting whose favorite foods are MEAT and PROTEIN all while flexing his pecs at the girls. It&#039;s almost as if he accidentally stepped into the wrong show, but it just adds greater character variety to the series.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Large amounts of men have been introduced throughout Marimite&#8217;s seasons, from Eriko&#8217;s brothers to the season 3 debut of the Hanadera student council, and they never really detract from the innocent/ambiguous yuri that Marimite is known for.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s one character who breaks the pleasant, feminine feel of the series but he does so almost intentionally. A member of the Hanadera student council, he introduces himself as a man whose hobby is weightlifting whose favorite foods are MEAT and PROTEIN all while flexing his pecs at the girls. It&#8217;s almost as if he accidentally stepped into the wrong show, but it just adds greater character variety to the series.</p>
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		<title>By: Errorabbit</title>
		<link>http://superfani.com/2009/01/05/why-we-love-teh-almost-yuri/#comment-420</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I&#039;d probably agree with your statement of spaces or gaps, I&#039;d say that&#039;s actually a sort of sideeffect of marimite (and some comparable works). Or actually, just that, while it is indeed an intended hole there - but of course, judging author intentions is always hard - it is left out for other reasons.

Namely that apparently, in japan, it is not uncommon to have very, very, very close relations between underage females that to any sort of outsider would appear romantic, and is indeed thought as a kind of &quot;experimental&quot; or more fittingly &quot;adjusting&quot; phase that is not unexpected but has nothing to say about the actual sexual orientation of the characters, which is absolutely expected to go back to heteresexual in the end.
It is considered immature to dwell on these relations.

As such, it is very necessary for this relationship not to be consummated sexually in nearly all works, since otherwise it would crash with the demographic, which is actually, underage straight girls, not young male adults, as could be expected.
(Which is targeted by more explicit, right to the point hentai stuff, mostly because the majority of males is apparently uninterested in romance stories)
Young male adults are definitely peripheral demographics, just how they are in case of magical girl nonsense, but not the target.

However, maybe it&#039;s all just humbug, since I took most of my information from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_S_(genre) and http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RomanticTwoGirlFriendship ...
Eitherway, even if this doesnt apply to MariMite, it&#039;s still more of a classic case of hinted-at homoeroticism, simply because such a thing is actually still not A-OK in nearly all of today&#039;s cultures.
Even Anime doesnt have a lot of homosexual relationships that are consummated outside of the specific genre that centers on them...  ...in which case it is nearly always used as a variant of the &quot;Impossible Love&quot; or &quot;Unethical Love&quot;, simply one step higher since most of the old conventions - love between members of different classes or warring factions or different race - are stale, not shocking, not as hard to overcome or not exotic enough.

Yes, Anime has tons and tons of Bishounen. But barely anyone is actually gay, are they?
A pity.
But Japan is, after all, probably more repressed in that area than western culture.

PS: As always, there are of course some works which are an exception.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;d probably agree with your statement of spaces or gaps, I&#8217;d say that&#8217;s actually a sort of sideeffect of marimite (and some comparable works). Or actually, just that, while it is indeed an intended hole there &#8211; but of course, judging author intentions is always hard &#8211; it is left out for other reasons.</p>
<p>Namely that apparently, in japan, it is not uncommon to have very, very, very close relations between underage females that to any sort of outsider would appear romantic, and is indeed thought as a kind of &#8220;experimental&#8221; or more fittingly &#8220;adjusting&#8221; phase that is not unexpected but has nothing to say about the actual sexual orientation of the characters, which is absolutely expected to go back to heteresexual in the end.<br />
It is considered immature to dwell on these relations.</p>
<p>As such, it is very necessary for this relationship not to be consummated sexually in nearly all works, since otherwise it would crash with the demographic, which is actually, underage straight girls, not young male adults, as could be expected.<br />
(Which is targeted by more explicit, right to the point hentai stuff, mostly because the majority of males is apparently uninterested in romance stories)<br />
Young male adults are definitely peripheral demographics, just how they are in case of magical girl nonsense, but not the target.</p>
<p>However, maybe it&#8217;s all just humbug, since I took most of my information from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_S_(genre)" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_S_(genre)</a> and <a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RomanticTwoGirlFriendship" rel="nofollow">http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RomanticTwoGirlFriendship</a> &#8230;<br />
Eitherway, even if this doesnt apply to MariMite, it&#8217;s still more of a classic case of hinted-at homoeroticism, simply because such a thing is actually still not A-OK in nearly all of today&#8217;s cultures.<br />
Even Anime doesnt have a lot of homosexual relationships that are consummated outside of the specific genre that centers on them&#8230;  &#8230;in which case it is nearly always used as a variant of the &#8220;Impossible Love&#8221; or &#8220;Unethical Love&#8221;, simply one step higher since most of the old conventions &#8211; love between members of different classes or warring factions or different race &#8211; are stale, not shocking, not as hard to overcome or not exotic enough.</p>
<p>Yes, Anime has tons and tons of Bishounen. But barely anyone is actually gay, are they?<br />
A pity.<br />
But Japan is, after all, probably more repressed in that area than western culture.</p>
<p>PS: As always, there are of course some works which are an exception.</p>
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		<title>By: animekritik</title>
		<link>http://superfani.com/2009/01/05/why-we-love-teh-almost-yuri/#comment-419</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 03:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ahh, delayed gratification.  Even better, coz there&#039;s no gratification as such, eternally delayed.  I haven&#039;t seen Marimite but if it manages to keep your interest so long without any actual yuri consummation then that means the story itself must be darn good!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, delayed gratification.  Even better, coz there&#8217;s no gratification as such, eternally delayed.  I haven&#8217;t seen Marimite but if it manages to keep your interest so long without any actual yuri consummation then that means the story itself must be darn good!</p>
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		<title>By: OGT</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 03:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have real fiction! That I have not touched in years! Does that count?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have real fiction! That I have not touched in years! Does that count?</p>
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		<title>By: lelangir</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ah, nice observation. Yeah, it&#039;s very Barthesian, because technically &lt;em&gt;everything&lt;/em&gt; is fanfiction - everything is inexplicably based off something else. I would try and quote Barthes off the top of my head but I haven&#039;t &lt;em&gt;Image Music Text&lt;/em&gt; at hand...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ah, nice observation. Yeah, it&#8217;s very Barthesian, because technically <em>everything</em> is fanfiction &#8211; everything is inexplicably based off something else. I would try and quote Barthes off the top of my head but I haven&#8217;t <em>Image Music Text</em> at hand&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cuchlann</title>
		<link>http://superfani.com/2009/01/05/why-we-love-teh-almost-yuri/#comment-416</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cuchlann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Pontifus:  first, nested comments appear to only extend so far.  Second, I don&#039;t see why not.  I haven&#039;t read any Holmesian scholarship yet, only about it:  in Chabon&#039;s essay and the notes in my annotated Sherlock Holmes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pontifus:  first, nested comments appear to only extend so far.  Second, I don&#8217;t see why not.  I haven&#8217;t read any Holmesian scholarship yet, only about it:  in Chabon&#8217;s essay and the notes in my annotated Sherlock Holmes.</p>
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		<title>By: Pontifus</title>
		<link>http://superfani.com/2009/01/05/why-we-love-teh-almost-yuri/#comment-415</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pontifus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Chabon cites “The Game,”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh shit, did Chabon just make us all lose the game?

...Oh shit, did I just troll my own blog?

And now, pertinence: a whimsical kind of scholarship, yes, but I wonder if it can&#039;t be written with some kind of rigor. But don&#039;t ask me how one would go about doing that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Chabon cites “The Game,”</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh shit, did Chabon just make us all lose the game?</p>
<p>&#8230;Oh shit, did I just troll my own blog?</p>
<p>And now, pertinence: a whimsical kind of scholarship, yes, but I wonder if it can&#8217;t be written with some kind of rigor. But don&#8217;t ask me how one would go about doing that.</p>
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		<title>By: Cuchlann</title>
		<link>http://superfani.com/2009/01/05/why-we-love-teh-almost-yuri/#comment-414</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cuchlann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, entire branches of fanfiction are really just arguments that certain characters should get together, or that certain plot events mean certain things (which can be an example of argument A, sometimes).  And Chabon cites &quot;The Game,&quot; the branch of Holmesian studies that act as though Holmes was real, to be the beginnings of fanfiction, and it&#039;s really just a whimsical kind of scholarship.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, entire branches of fanfiction are really just arguments that certain characters should get together, or that certain plot events mean certain things (which can be an example of argument A, sometimes).  And Chabon cites &#8220;The Game,&#8221; the branch of Holmesian studies that act as though Holmes was real, to be the beginnings of fanfiction, and it&#8217;s really just a whimsical kind of scholarship.</p>
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		<title>By: Pontifus</title>
		<link>http://superfani.com/2009/01/05/why-we-love-teh-almost-yuri/#comment-413</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pontifus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I hereby proclaim scholarly writing, or any kind of textual analysis, fanfiction.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I really, really suspect this to be the case, or at least I suspect they&#039;re far closer than any professor would deign to admit, but I don&#039;t quite know how to articulate it yet. Nor have I been able to actually bring myself to experiment with fanfiction as an analytic technique (the bad Final Fantasy fics I wrote years ago don&#039;t count...).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I hereby proclaim scholarly writing, or any kind of textual analysis, fanfiction.</p></blockquote>
<p>I really, really suspect this to be the case, or at least I suspect they&#8217;re far closer than any professor would deign to admit, but I don&#8217;t quite know how to articulate it yet. Nor have I been able to actually bring myself to experiment with fanfiction as an analytic technique (the bad Final Fantasy fics I wrote years ago don&#8217;t count&#8230;).</p>
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		<title>By: Cuchlann</title>
		<link>http://superfani.com/2009/01/05/why-we-love-teh-almost-yuri/#comment-412</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cuchlann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s an interesting conundrum, really.  Derridean theory illustrates that every text is individual, even if based on something else in the author&#039;s mind.  But readers of fanfiction only come to that text if they&#039;re looking for something from the original.  So fanfiction is a play between these two poles of theoretical reading.  Fun stuff, I don&#039;t have any answers about it.  :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an interesting conundrum, really.  Derridean theory illustrates that every text is individual, even if based on something else in the author&#8217;s mind.  But readers of fanfiction only come to that text if they&#8217;re looking for something from the original.  So fanfiction is a play between these two poles of theoretical reading.  Fun stuff, I don&#8217;t have any answers about it.  :D</p>
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		<title>By: TheBigN</title>
		<link>http://superfani.com/2009/01/05/why-we-love-teh-almost-yuri/#comment-411</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m just saying, if you write fanfiction OGT, I&#039;d read it. :P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just saying, if you write fanfiction OGT, I&#8217;d read it. :P</p>
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		<title>By: Cuchlann</title>
		<link>http://superfani.com/2009/01/05/why-we-love-teh-almost-yuri/#comment-410</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cuchlann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, makes sense.  I think I&#039;ve seen a few others, but apparently I didn&#039;t save links.  :p]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, makes sense.  I think I&#8217;ve seen a few others, but apparently I didn&#8217;t save links.  :p</p>
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